Art Unquoted is a podcast about contemporary art hosted by Charlotte Desaga and Esenija Bannan. Both bring decades of professional experience working with artists, museums, and galleries internationally.
Each episode begins with a quote from an art world protagonist. From there, the hosts explore what lies beneath: the philosophy, the assumptions, the deeper questions. What distinguishes Art Unquoted is the conversation itself. Grounded in real experience, the hosts bring both enthusiasm and critical thinking. They don't explain art, they explore it.
New episodes every other week.
Martin brings the poetry of the non-visible world into visibility. And in doing so, she gives us permission to do the same. To stop pretending that what we see is all there is. To acknowledge that there are other ways of being and seeing.
Jordan Wolfson's creations leave a mark. Uncomfortable. Excessive. Alive, even when they shouldn't be. The technology is so sophisticated, you forget you're looking at something artificial.
If intuition is a form of cognitive efficiency, Wolfson's work is its opposite. It doesn't streamline. It overwhelms. Baroque in its intensity, and strangely timeless.
"I stuff the intuitive inside of the practical."
What does that really mean? New episode, Art unquoted.
"There are energies that grab us from out there, pass through us, and then find their way elsewhere." – Rebecca Horn
In memory of Rebecca Horn: "There are energies that grab us from out there, pass through us, and then find their way elsewhere." We explore how the artist transformed invisible energies into melancholic machines, precise films, and profound spiritual experiences.
Ohio: A Cinematic Landscape? What makes a place cinematic? In this personal bonus episode, Esenija travels through the architectural landscapes of Ohio; the quiet, overlooked streets of Hamilton. Inspired by Kelly Reichardt’s The Mastermind, filmed -among many other places- in Hamilton, she reflects on buildings that do not demand attention, yet stay with us: brick warehouses, Victorian storefronts, empty streets, and light falling on a façade. A meditation on architecture, cinema, and the art of truly looking.